What Data is Collected From Kindergarteners Without Parental Consent?   23 comments

If a parent wants psychologists, researchers, doctors or businessmen studying his/her child, and the parents gives written consent, I have no problem with that.

I do have a very big problem with researchers, businessmen, politicians and others studying children without parental consent or knowledge.  That’s 1984-style creepy.  That’s government believing it’s bigger and more valid than those who created it.

The NCES, also known as the National Center for Educational Statistics, a federal branch, is so hungry for data on kindergarteners (and on everyone else, for that matter, that it worries me.  People aren’t aware of what NCES is aiming to do.  Nobody’s fighting in a meaningful way to protect children’s and family privacy rights.  Federal FERPA laws that were supposed to protect student and family rights were shredded a few years ago.  Data is the new oil, the new gold, those who want the data are desperate to get it, and they are getting it.

What are they getting?

If you click on this link, you will find a pdf with 187 PAGES of data points that NCES plans to collect on our kindergarteners.  That’s not 187 points of data, but 187 pages of points of data.  Medical data.  Home data.  Racial data.  Academic data.  Behavioral data.  Data on children’s weight, household marriages,  poverty levels, cohabiations, occupations, motivation levels, game playing, number of books in the home— everything.   Click on this link and see the PDF for the whole list.

Here’s a tiny sample:

190 TEACHER REPORT EXTERN PROB BEHAVIORS
194 X1 TEACHER REPORT INTERN PROB BEHAVIORS
200 X1 TEACHER REPORT ATTENTIONAL FOCUS
204 X1 TEACHER REPORT INHIBITORY CONTROL
226 X3 HEIGHT MEASUREMENT PRESENT
228 X3 WEIGHT MEASUREMENT PRESENT
230 X1 CHILD COMPOSITE BMI
302 X12 PARENT 1 EDUCATION LEVEL (IMPUTED)
305 X1 PARENT 1 EMPLOYMENT STATUS
307 X1 PARENT 1 OCCUPATION
309 X1 AVG PRESTIGE SCR FOR PAR 1 OCCUPATION (IMPUTED)
335 X1 NUMBER IN HOUSEHOLD AGED <18
338 X1 NUMBER IN HOUSEHOLD AGED 18+
345 X1 # HOURS SPENT IN NONPARENTAL CARE NOW
353 X2 INCOME CATEGORY (IMPUTED)
356 X12 POVERTY LEVEL
358 X2 ADULT’S FOOD SECURITY RAW SCORE
363 X4 ADULT’S FOOD SECURITY STATUS
368  CHILD’S FOOD SECURITY STATUS
374 X2 HOUSEHOLD FOOD SECURITY STATUS
380 X12 MOTHER MARRIED AT TIME OF BIRTH
387 X1 PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SCHOOL (How would they get this data from a private school?)
457 F1 PARENT INTERVIEW DISPOSITION CODE
473 F1 PARENT INTERVIEW WORK AREA
521 F1 SCHOOL CENSUS TRACT CODE
525P1 HOME CENSUS TRACT CODE
585 C1 ACQ025 INTERRUPTION DURING ASSESSMENT
587 C1 ACQ035 DISRUPTIONS DURING ASSESSMENT
601 C1 ACQ075 CHILD’S MOTIVATION LEVEL
602 C1 ACQ080 CHILD’S COOPERATION
603 C1 ACQ085 CHILD’S ATTENTION LEVEL
1269 P1 FSQ200 CURRENT MARITAL STATUS
1316 P1 HEQ010A HOW OFTEN YOU TELL STORIES
1317 P1 HEQ010B HOW OFTEN YOU ALL SING SONGS
1318 P1 HEQ010C HOW OFTEN YOU HELP CHD DO ART
1319 P1 HEQ010D HOW OFTEN CHILD DOES CHORES
1320 P1 HEQ010E HOW OFTEN YOU ALL PLAY GAMES
1321 P1 HEQ010F HOW OFTEN YOU TALK ABT NATURE
1329 P1 HEQ040 HOW MANY BOOKS CHILD HAS
…These types of very personal questions keep going until 1332
1333 P1 CCQ010 NOW HAS CARE FROM RELATIVE
1334 P1 CCQ015 EVER HAD CARE FROM RELATIVE
1354 P1 CCQ085 # OF DAYS/WK OF REL CARE
1355 P1 CCQ090 # OF HRS/WK OF REL CARE
1356 P1 CCQ092 CHARGE FOR RELATIVE CARE
1451 P1 CHQ085 COMPLICATIONS TO BIRTH/DELIVRY
1470P1 CHQ095 EVER HAD EAR INFECTION
1471P1 CHQ096 EVER HAD EAR ACHE
1510P1 CHQ330 SCALE OF CHILDS HEALTH
1511 P1 SSQ010J KEEP WORKING TO FINISH
1516 P1 SSQ010X CREATIVE IN WORK OR PLAY
1519 P1 MHQ025B YEAR WHEN RESP-BIOPAR MARRIED (When parents were married)
1521 P1 MHQ035A MNTH RESBIOMOM-DAD START COHAB

So many times, ugly education and data reform sites/pages “disappear” from the internet after people start pointing them out.  So, in case that happens again, I have also copied and pasted (below) a list of restricted data that is now available from this link:   http://nces.ed.gov/pubsearch/licenses.asp  –and I’m going to screen shot and paste the link of the Kindergarten and First Grade data file, that led to this list, below.

Restricted-data Available

 

Individual Surveys

kindergarten data file

 

The sad fact seems to be that we, as a group of people, have so much confidence in other human beings that we do not search out for ourselves what is really going on, and we do not demand that our children’s data be protected.

We are in a state of blind self-security, trusting our children’s destinies to the hands of data-hungry strangers with reckless confidence.   We have to be smarter than this, more protective than this!

If you do not know why so much data sharing is a bad idea, please, for starters, read the book 1984.  It’s free.

If you want to study more about what is now actually being collected via schools’ State Longitudinal Database Systems, read the linked posts I’ve written previously here and here.

23 responses to “What Data is Collected From Kindergarteners Without Parental Consent?

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  1. Data collection like this empowers and aids pedophiles.

    The current rage of sympathy for the pedo articles in main stream media and the rash of institutional pedo crimes. Many more insidious than the catholic church. Google any institution and tge word pedophile and you will be shocked.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/21/opinion/cantor-pedophila-sandusky/

    http://gawker.com/5941037/born-this-way-sympathy-and-science-for-those-who–want-to-have-sex-with-children

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/opinion/pedophilia-a-disorder-not-a-crime.html?referrer=&_r=0

    http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,232584,00.html

    http://time.com/3486493/preventing-child-sex-abuse-stephen-collins/

    http://m.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/08/i-pedophile/278921/This information is devastating to children and parents, families abd society. It benefits one toxic sector.
    Pedophiles.

    Why is MSM promoting this?

    Wake up parents!

    Schools protect pedophiles!
    Media protects pedophiles!
    Data collections helps pedophiles!
    Look up terry Bean!
    Look up Larry Brinkin!
    Why does gawker, huffpo, time, atlantic promote these ideas??
    Wake up parents and stop trusting the phony propaganda! Your children need you .

    http://nycprivateschoolsblog.com/events/sex-abuse-symposium-in-nyc-on-102114-the-epidemic-of-sexual-abuse-in-our-schools-and-universities/10/19/2014/

    This school hand out promotes antiparent ideas to kids… To keep secrets..Read it

    http://choices.scholastic.com/issues/04_01_13

    This sex ed is beyond porn and pervert!

    http://www.kingcounty.gov/healthservices/health/personal/famplan/educators/FLASH.aspx

  2. you won’t believe this, but the links to the full fledged PDF is already missing.

    • I figured out the problem. The url cannot have the http//:.

      Copy and paste this and make sure that this and only this is in your broswer: nces.ed.gov/pubsearch/pubsinfo.asp?pubid=2015070

  3. I was just going to say what I saw Bryce already said. All those links have been taken down. What the heck?!?

  4. You downloaded the PDF too, I hope.

  5. Link is still good if you go to the NCES.ed.gov site. Link to PDF: http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2015/2015070_layout.pdf Link to page: http://nces.ed.gov/pubsearch/pubsinfo.asp?pubid=2015070

  6. Page B-17 and B-28 were especially disturbing. What relevance does this have to them–to anything!? I am utterly disgusted.
    So enough ranting. What can we do to right things?

  7. Ok.. I get the shock value of this. I can see the “Oh my gawd you’re a stalker” angle too… but.. it is anonymous data. it doesn’t toch you in any way fromt that source. and.. how else are they suppose to create meaningful systems if they don’t have it?

    Now.. I’m being serious here.. I understand the discomfort but .. honestly .. set aside the “But you don’t understand”” for a moment.. because I do.. reallly I do.. What is another answer for all of the problems they use this data to address?

    Let’s narrow it down. You are the Grand Pooba of the USA — we’ll remove all agencies for clarity. You are Big Brother.- the man.. The Woman in Charge. Buck Stops here.

    Mothers in several areas of California are reporting that their schools are not large enough. Classes are too large, and students are suffering.

    — Are kids suffering? It makes sense that if the class is too large then the teacher doesn’t have enough time for each student, thus we can logically agree that this could be happening. But.. is it? Actually there have been several studies on that exact topic. We took it at fact value back in the 80s, but since then we’ve been finding that it may not be as big a deal as we made it out to be.But.. you can’t do the study.. so how do you find out this answer.

    — What are they suffering from? Diet? Health ailments? Test Scores? Boredom?

    — What is Too Large? How many should be in a class?

    –How many classes are too large?

    — Are all of these mothers in the same school district?

    Let’s say that you feel the USA mothers are on the ball, know what is good for their child and just send the money.

    — Did it get used properly?
    _- did it help?
    — How was it spent.

    This woefully simple example of all of the issues which need to be addressed quickly and efficiently while on the constant look out for fraud.

    Without the data .. how do you operate?

    • So, you fully trust that all that data will be used only for the good of our children? And the results will never be skewed to fulfill an agenda someone may have? And can we even be sure all that data is really, truly accurate? Who is really providing all that data anyway? Most of the time it is not the child’s parents. Situations such as the one you mentioned above (classroom overcrowding, etc.) should be dealt with locally and with community involvement. Data collection is a scam.

    • I’m interpreting these Mom’s objections to massive data collection not so much about data collection by itself, but with unauthorized use of their child’s data. Children’s personal and private information is shared with state and federal Depts of Education that are NOT totally transparent about who gets this information and what is being done with it. Parents have too little rights to opt out sharing sensitive information and too much discretion is given to school systems and DoEd with no oversight.

      Massive child data sharing is being justified as a way for teachers and schools to streamline information sharing, improve learning, and speed up service delivery. What powerful interests fail to reveal is that data are not only going to other professionals who are directly teaching their children but to private corporations and the military without parent’s knowledge and consent. No Child Left Behind uses the power of federal law to RESTRICT parent’s ability to refuse data sharing with the military. Race to the Top made data collection systems mandatory for “winning” the grant. Billions have been spent on unproven, online tests & curriculum that developers claim to “personalize” learning but have no independent research that supports such a claim.

      It’s important to be aware that the military and other govt agencies outsource a great deal of their work to private contractors. Once data leave the dept of education it goes to hundreds of unaccountable entities that are not transparent about what they do with that data. This worldwide tangled knot of private contractors means parents may never find the recipients of their child’s personal information.

      Leonie Haimson of NYCity Public School Parents has been a dogged detective on DoEd’s privacy abuses. Here’s what she found in 2008: “On Sept. 16, Schools Chancellor Joel Klein issued a policy directive to principals that streamlined the process for providing military recruiters the personal information of all 11th and 12th grade students at the city’s public high schools. The policy changes were made unilaterally and without any public input, despite the enormous implications to children’s privacy. Under the new policy, students have until Friday to submit opt-out forms to have their information withheld from military recruiters.

      Yet at the same time that the DOE officials appear willing to hand over student contact information to the military, they deny this same information to any and all Parent Associations who would like to get in touch with other parents at their children’s schools, to invite them to PA meetings or fundraisers, or provide other information to encourage parent involvement in schoolwide events.”

      Haimson & NYCity Parents successfully shut down inBloom, Inc, a child data mining “non-profit” that NYCIty Schools had given a big fat contract to collect student data. What is (was) inBloom, Inc?
      “inBloom Inc. is a non-profit corporation, funded by the Gates and Carnegie Foundations to the tune of $100 million, created to collect personally identifiable student and teacher data from states and districts and share it with vendors. The data is being stored on a cloud run by Amazon.com, with an operating system created by Wireless/Amplify, a subsidiary of News Corporation, owned by Rupert Murdoch. inBloom is planning to commercialize this data, with the agreement of states and districts, by offering it up to for-profit companies. All this is being done without parental notification or consent.” http://nycpublicschoolparents.blogspot.com/search?q=FERPA The dept of education is giving our children’s most sensitive data to profiteers.

      Finally, these data are not anonymous. Government agencies, the military, the CIA, Homeland Security, the FBI, and multi-national corporations have unlimited capabilities to track individuals by accessing educational data starting in Kindergarten and, if the child has a disability, at birth. They can look back into an adult’s school history for disciplinary problems, learning problems, family mental health problems, a low test score, and any detail they decide might be undesirable. Would anyone want to have their future jeopardized becaus they made a poor decision as a child?

      Parents and average citizens are at a gross disadvantage at finding their child’s data after it has been shared which is the reason parents need the right to refuse unrestricted data sharing.

      http://nycpublicschoolparents.blogspot.com/2014/03/video-of-our-student-privacy-panel-at.html

    • T Hopkins… you are obviously a number cruncher. Who do you work for and how do you make your living. You think that you have the expertise to decide what the numbers mean even when teachers and parents know otherwise.

      National Education Summit: Student Data Privacy & Security. Are you part of this group?

      • Sorry, Betsy Marshall–I can’t take credit for that comment. It belongs to Glenn Hefley. I am totally and completely against data collection from our kids so that the big corporations can profit from them and further invade our privacy. I don’t see through the facade of justification and I want it stopped.

    • And one more thing, if our children are to be used as subjects for data collection, then at the very least, signed parental permission should be obtained, and our children should be reimbursed for their contributions…contributions that will someday make some corporation/organization/government a LOT of money.

  8. Hi- can you please tell me if this is happening in NH? I can’t get a straight answer from them about assessments. Thanks!

  9. Anytime that they find out that this stuff is being posted online, they quickly delete it as fast as they can to try to discredit the people who posted it. So great, isn’t it! This is all true. My daughter has come home telling me about questions that they’ve asked her in school. She is 5, and in kindergarten. She doesn’t answer questions for just anyone either. Thank goodness. I also have Stopped filling out all of those online surveys. As I feel those surveys are being paid for by our government. I don’t care how much money that might pay me to do them. It’s data collection, period. Who needs that much information about you and your household???

    • Actually Heather, that has been on line since 2003.. I played with some of the other data sets they have.. found it to be useless since it isn’t complete an haven’t looked at it again until now… it is in the same state.. basically useless.

  10. This Data Mining is exposing more than just the Tip Of The Iceberg. Acceptance of this nonsense by the Public and even by The Catholic Schools will inevitably lead to a completely new System of Education in America with the first step being the current desperation move to Home Schooling!

  11. Sorry, Betsy Marshall–I can’t take credit for that comment. It belongs to Glenn Hefley. I am totally and completely against data collection from our kids so that the big corporations can profit from them and further invade our privacy. I don’t see through the facade of justification and I want it stopped.

  12. Ok.. I’ve done a ton of research on this now.. and even found a very recent study done by a data expert who is one of the best out there right now at what she does. You can find the study here : http://www.thomasmore.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/RobustStateDataSystem.pdf
    I do hope that you will at the very least read the conclusion, and give some thought to what I’m going to try to give you an overview of. If you want this gone… it doesn’t look like it would be very difficult to make that happen.

    Two important points are very obvious to me right now. 1) This is not functional 2) Most of that data, is not being collected.

    Being a database person (in my previous life) I can tell you that most of those things on the list are never, ever going to be filled in. Why put them there then? Well.. because when that database was being designed — and even now really — it was 40 times easier to throw everything you could think of into the creation of a datamine structure when you were creating it, than it was to add something later. So.. that’s what they did. . you can believe that or do whta you want with it.. really it doesn’t matter. As I said, the thing isn’t functiona. It is what we call Vapor-ware… a software money pit.

    This doesn’t mean that they are not collecting data.. they are. They have been collecting data since 1965.
    Now some of this data is a good thing.. for example this report http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/crdc-discipline-snapshot.pdf

    Here is my old High School .. and I don’t see anything I object to.. and I believe this is a nice tool to bave if you are looking ot move from one school to another as well http://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=254542&syk=6&pid=732

    This seems to be the extent of what they are able to bring in. You’ll notice that this is 2011, and the only other set available is 2009. They aren’t able to bring the data in regularly.

    There are also several laws in place which are hindering them.. that first report gives a good list and description of those.

    The author of that first report makes it very clear that They ARE able to do this… on the technical side.. We have the tech to do it… but we don’t have the funds, people, training or the Will to do it. Also, it is very likely — she points out — that if the States ever get around to putting this into play, they’ll likely want to keep the data themselves and not share it with the Feds.

    So.. why do this? Because it is the LAW. Part I of the CSPR requests information related to the five ESEA goals, established in the Consolidated State Application, and provides data for the Annual Report to Congress on ESEA programs, as described in section 1111(h)(4) of the Act. — Which is here and then search for “collection” http://www2.ed.gov/policy/elsec/leg/esea02/pg2.html#sec1111

    You can see that the State really has the power to neuter this .. and in effect make the whole thing more useless than it is now.

    so.. what I would do, is get your State to do exactly that. Make a law like Ohio has… The people in office right now would love that. AND they are re-writing ESEA right now. I checked https://www.govtrack.us and didn’t find anything in the works along those lines yet. But I think most state reps would go for this without too much urging.

  13. Glen, two things: 1) It’s not anonymous data, for the most part. Check the Federal Register to read that personally identifiable information is acceptable, is defined very broadly, including the use of biometric data (biological and behavioral indicators); and, that the receipt of written parental consent has been reduced from mandatory to just a “best practice”. The SIF (School Interoperability Framework) Association promotes student identifiers. The Council of Chief State School Officers openly claims as one of its top goals the “commitment to disaggregation” of student data. Here are those links.

    https://www.sifassociation.org/Pages/default.aspx

    http://www.ccsso.org/Resources/Publications/Principles_and_Processes_for_State_Leadership_on_Next-Generation_Accountability_Systems.html

    2) There is no “Grand Pooba”. We individuals, each in our own families, are the power holders. America, founded on the principle of individual sovereignty, is supposed to work via local control, individual control, representative law making, shared and spread out power, checks and balances. That means that nobody can say “Because of my superior knowledge gained by forced or secretive data mining, I mandate X.” Nobody has the right to collect all this data –unless there’s parental or individual consent. “Consent by the governed” is a basic principle that the data miners totally ignore, whether governmental or corporate.

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